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4/24/2007                                                                                       View Comments

Dawkins -- O'Reilly interview

Last night FOX News commentator Bill O'Reilly broadcast a five-minute interview with British ethologist, evolutionary biologist, popular science writer and advocate of atheism Richard Dawkins.



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26 comments:

tjmarcink said...

I used to love Bill O'reilly as a christian. But when I started to see the truth I realized he was just a pig-headed right winger. I think Dawkins got 12 seconds of that 5 minutes. At least he had no spin in that interview. Dumb-ass.
If he had every letter from our founding fathers he would've realized some of them didn't believe in Christ or God. Also it is common knowledge that Hitler was a devout Christian killing in the name of Jesus. Look up your facts O'reilly.

Anonymous said...

Facts that go against beliefs mean apsolutely nothing to people like O'Reilly. They have no problem accepting their beliefs as facts. Hence the problem. Right wingers could have the facts right in front of them, as O'Reilly did, and still not accept them. Too bad that he will more than likely never change. He is too rooted in his mythology. Jim Earl

Bill said...

Hey tmarcink,
Hell, O'Reilly wasn't that bad on Mr. Dawkins. I think he let him make his points. I guess what the real problem was time constraint since it was such a short interview. As a guy who's pretty much a flaming liberal, I do like O'Reilly because he is not afraid to cross party lines once(he thinks it's absurd that Exxon is making record profits which is very non Republcan) in a while on certain issues(as can I), where as someone like Sean Hannity would never dream of disagreeing with our president and has his lips firmly planted on his ass.

I loved it when O'reilly stated that Hitler and Stalin were atheists, and Dawkins fired back with the fact that both men had mustaches too but that doesn't mean all men with mustaches are bad.

Wow were are up to 12% of non believers in this country. Kick Ass.

To sum it up Mr. O'Reilly had some much weaker arguments that I am used to seeing the Christians post around here.

xrayman

Spirula said...

Interview" is hardly the appropriate term. O'Reilly, as always, brought Dawkins on then used Dawkins as a backdrop to spout his canned opinions. Wasn't an interview and wasn't a debate, just another faux snooze opportunity to exploit the status of someone else.

Dawkins was embarassed

In the real world, we call that "cut off" or "bait and run argumentation".

Anonymous said...

If Dawkins was embarassed it was because of the idiotic things that O'Reilly was saying. Hitler viewed himself as the tool of Jesus and I thought that was pretty common knowledge by now. Guess not. Jim Earl

stronger now said...

Oh, paul. You seem so empathetic towards Dawkins. You must be really sad for him to be so embarassed. If it makes you feel better I'm sure It's all just in your imagination.

THE ACE said...

Actually, considering some O'Reilly
interviews I've seen, this one wasn't too bad. He didn't stoop much to his usual self-righteous
bullying and blustering, and did let Dawkins get in a few comments.

But of course, he used the same tired example of Hitler and Stalin being atheists. Hitler was indeed
a Roman Catholic and referred to
himself as doing "God's work".
Yes, Stalin was an atheist, and yes, he killed millions; so by
Fundamentalist logic (an oxymoron
if there ever was one) anyone who
is an Atheist is going to be a mass
murderer. Astreja, in a letter
regarding another posting, made an
excellent point about going to
your local jail and finding out
how many Christians are behind
bars.

Pull The Other One! said...

It wasn't so much the questions that were the problem - some of them have been posed to Richard Dawkins by serious broadcasters.

The problem was in the way that they were put - that sneering, condescending tone used throughout the interview, as if O'Reilly was flaunting his bias and ignorance.

No wonder paul enjoyed it!

Anonymous said...

Great piece even though Dawkins didn't have enough time to shut O Reilly down. That being said , it was great to put atheism on a channel that is watched primarily by conservative christians of whom many don't really know why they believe the way they do. This will undoubtedly cause many to investigate further.

Jamie G. said...

I am a huge fan of Dawkins, but I wonder why he and people like Ellan Johnson of American Atheists get on these shows. Johnson said in a recent podcast of Atheist Viewpoint that they gave her a list of articles that they were to discuss, but she ended up getting broadsided by something else. Are they that naive? Maybe I am wrong, but there has to be a better format than being targets for dumbasses like O'Reilly and Coulter.

skeptic griggsy said...

I wish that Dawkins could have responded to where did it all come from nonsense! Bede Rundle in his " Why is there Something rather than nothing answers that. Anne Coulter is O'Reilly and Phil Schoofly's [ aks Phillis Schafly] love child.

Rick said...

The one thing I noticed is that nothing of religion was really spoken of. The only things discussed where what other people *thought* -

"I think this is true"
"you can't prove my belief is wrong"
"That guy believed in god and did..."
"That guy didn't believe and did ..."

Bill showed no imagination or knowledge at all pulling up the same tired old arguments. Dawkins had a valid answer to every single one. Not that Bill actually listened.

The key here is that Bill, nor any fundy, ever really stops to consider what they are hearing other than pinpoint some insignificant point that they can continue their attack from. Does anyone here think Bill went away from this with the new found knowledge that Hitler was a Roman Catholic? Has ANY believer actually listened to the responses Dawkins presented to those same, tired, arguments and realized that their arguments are nothing more than tired rhetoric?

It really gets frustrating to see the self deluded never stepping back for a moment and considering the responses they get for their claims.

pertt said...

Hitler paid his Catholic church tax until he died. Stalin trained to be a priest and his exact beliefs are unkown.

pert said...

What about all the Churches that supported the Nazi and fascist movement?

Dale said...

The Ace wrote:
Yes, Stalin was an atheist, and yes, he killed millions...

As an historian of Stalin's Soviet Union I can state that there was no evidence thst Stalin was an atheist. In fact, no one knows what his beliefs/nonbeliefs were. This is a myth that was invented during the McCarthy era - all communist countries were atheist, which is patently ludicrous.

Gus said...

O'reilly: "Being humble is a xtian virtue"

Ww, i am humbled by mr o!reallys panache.

I must go thank baby jesus now.

LosingMyReligion said...

What I love is how none belief is picking up steam in this country. Five years ago Richard Dawkins would not have been on television let alone the O'Reilly factor. Now you have skeptics and Atheists like Sam Harris and Dawkins really becoming valid voices...

I think we are headed in a positive director and the fundies are getting scared. I always love how they try to dominate the conversation and play the "Hitler was an atheist(which he was not)" card. That is the last bastion of their defense.

Anyway, hopefully we will trend away from religion. Everyone will not be an atheist, but it will be good just to get away from the stranglehold of religion on this country. We are a first world nation guided by an imaginary friend. How sick is that?

Bill said...

It's funny how O'Reilly used the Stalin, Hitler strawman argument and then went on to say to Mr. Dawkins. "Now I am sure you are going to mention the crusades." As if that wouldn't have been fucking fair or pertinent to the argument.

Why didn't Dawkins throw the old "Where did God come from?" question his way? I love listening to Christians answer that one.

xrayman

Eurohousesparrow said...

It is not only wonderful, but it is absolutely imperative that great minds like Dawkins appear at venues such as Bill O'Reilly. Loaded and one sided though the format may be, those demographics are in desperate need of hearing the voice of reason, and hearing it in the polite, respectful manner that is typical of Dawkins.
How refreshing is the voice of reason compared to the manic shouting of nonsensical Bible verses!

BTW a good Hitler/Catholicism pictorial:
http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm

eel_shepherd said...

It was interesting that the host took the line that Xtianity was "true for me", while allowing that atheism could be true for Dawkins. On the evangelical radio station, one of the things the assorted pastors are always decrying is the belief that all Truth is relative nowadays, that there is no Absolute Truth. And then saying But it's not really so --- Jebus is the absolute truth, and so is the bible.

And yet, what did we see in this interview? Bill O'Reilly saying that Dawkins was welcome to have one truth while he had another. And Dawkins saying that, no, truth doesn't work like that.

So, the shoe was on the other foot, at least in this interview. I wonder what all the evangelical pastors made of that?

THE ACE said...

Whoops, sorry Dale, I stand corrected. Like many, I assumed
Stalin was an Atheist. I guess
the McCarthy people did a good job.

One of the reasons I enjoy this site is because with so many different contributors, I learn
something every day.

madbuni said...

"the tide comes in the tide goes out, the sun rises and sets....", so cheesy crust, there must be a god!! WTF? Bill embarrassed himself with that one right off the bat, and then he went downhill from there.

I think the part of the show with Dr. Dawkins was purposefully short because O'reilly knew he would be in way over his head.

I too am just glad Dawkins got the exposure and a plug for his book! It is a step forward as far as I am concerned.

Too bad that only 12% of the US have come to their senses, but at least the number is on the rise :)

Anonymous said...

Dawkins is as much of an evangelist as Billy Graham - he just uses a different bible (which is as 'unproven' as the one he criticises).

RubyHypatia said...

I enjoyed the interview, though I do wish O'Reilly had let Dawkins speak more. And Dawkins did get to promote his book. BTW, I like O'Reilly, but don't always agree with him.

Anonymous said...

I don't know anything about this Bill O'Reilly guy but he was more interested shooting his own mouth off rather than interviewing Dawkins.

As much as I respect Dawkins, he doesn't do very well at interviews. He needs a bulldog to do his work for him.

Brett Robson

RubyHypatia said...

Humility is a Christian virtue? That I cannot agree with. No religion owns or has a monopoly on virtue.