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Point of View

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by WizenedSage Image by arti47 via Flickr F or those believers and fence-sitters who occasionally visit this site, I offer the following for your consideration. The following passage is the very foundation statement of Christianity, so what it means is very, very important. John 3:16: “ For God so loved the world , that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life .” So, god is making a really big sacrifice for us, right? Well, that depends on your point of view. Here’s what I see in that passage. “Your birth offends me. I can forgive you, but someone has to die.” Once we scrape off the sticky sweet frosting of words like “love” and “gave,” isn’t that the real message of that passage? You may think god is doing the sacrificing here, but isn’t he also the one demanding the sacrifice, and rather arbitrarily, since he makes the rules? And, like any good TV huckster, god adds, “But that’s not all! If you worship me, I’ll let y...

A Humanist Thanksgiving Proclamation

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by Robert Green Ingersoll (1833–1899), from The Works of Robert Green Ingersoll Vol IV W hen I became convinced that the universe is natural — that all the ghosts and gods are myths , there entered into my brain , into my soul , into every drop of my blood, the sense, the feeling, the joy of freedom. The walls of my prison crumbled and fell, the dungeon was flooded with light and all the bolts and bars and manacles became dust. I was no longer a servant, a serf or a slave. There was for me no master in all the world — not even infinite space. I was free: Free to think, to express my thoughts Free to live my own ideal Fee to live for myself and those I loved Free to use all my faculties, all my senses Free to spread imagination’s wings Free to investigate, to guess and dream and hope Free to judge and determine for myself Free to reject all ignorant and cruel creeds, all the “inspired” books that savages have produced, and all the barbarous legends of the past Free from popes and...

“He’s a great science teacher, but he doesn’t believe in evolution.”

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by Valerie Tarico It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change. – Charles Darwin L ast week, as I was driving a carload of middle-schoolers to a movie, the kids started talking about their teachers. I couldn’t help overhearing, “ . . . He’s a great science teacher, but he doesn’t believe in evolution.” Two days later, a friend reported that her 15-year-old daughter had just returned from at a junior government retreat. “They argued the pros and cons of teaching intelligent design in schools, and she said there were some very compelling arguments on the pro side.” When I repeated the story at the dinner table later, my own daughter mentioned a school mate who feels conflicted about his biology curriculum because his family doesn’t believe in evolution. Charles Darwin published his world-changing work, On the Origin of Species , 150 years ago this week. What he proposed was breathtakingly simple. It can be re...

You Can Be Healed!

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by David J Pastor Billy Joe Daugherty " You Can Be Healed: How to Believe God for Your Healing " is a book by Billy Joe Daughtery , founder of Victory Christian Center (VCC), Victory Christian School (VCS), and Victory Bible Institute (VBI). Daughtery was also the interim president at Oral Roberts University (ORU) of which he and I are both alumni. In addition to being a graduate of VBI and ORU, I am also a founding member of VCC and a former student of VCS. In VBI, we had a class that was so important to him that he taught it himself. It was on healing. To summerize a semester in a few words, the premise was that Christ died for our sins and also our healing. Not only is salvation a free gift for all who accept it, healing is also a free gift for anyone who believes. I won't claim to know who wrote the various parts of the bible or why, but a plain text reading of several of the authors would lead to this interpretation. Last month, Billy Joe Daughtery was dia...

Uncluttering

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by Carl S Image by bondidwhat via Flickr F irst off, for any Christian reading this, what do the words “Lead us not into temptation” mean? I know that’s from the Lord’s Prayer, the Perfect prayer, of which there are two versions. It means that, out of all those fruits in Eden, the lord deliberately pointed out that you shouldn’t eat those of that particular tree he deliberately planted there, according to your beliefs. It also means that the hands placed so close to certain organs are not allowed to touch and play with them. In fact, there are many examples of the lord’s tempting. You can blame Eve and the serpent all you want, but guess who put the boiling pot of water just where the child would tip it over onto himself? There is a line in the movie “The Princess Bride”, where the serf tells the padre, “I’m not buying what you’re selling.” All those reverends, popes, rabbis, imams, seers, etc. are selling. In a free market for religion they’re out with sales pitches, putting up adver...

UnChristian Gratitude

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by Dr. Marlene Winell Image by Te55 via Flickr R ecently I had a very short, but encouraging little dream right before waking up. I had been feeling burdened by all the problems in the world. In my dream I got the message that “the butterflies are working to lift our spirits.” I woke up surprised and delighted. Later I shared it with a couple friends who also liked it, amused by the image. Then I mentioned it to a Christian I know, who responded, “Maybe that’s why God made them.” Perhaps some of you who are also “recovering Christians” can help me understand my irritation. My guess is that I’m tired of this pattern of making everything good one step removed from our direct experience. In the typical Christian view, nature’s beauty is always “God’s handiwork.” When you look at a sunset or the intricacy of an orchid, you have to give credit to God and be thankful to Him. Nothing is simply beautiful or amazing for its own sake. This Thanksgiving, lets enjoy and reclaim our g...

The Things You Learn In Sunday School (Part 5) - Elisha Delivers Death to Children By Way of Bear

by MtlRedAtheist The Holy Bible tells a story of how Elisha cursed some children to be destroyed by wild bears, because they mocked his bald head. Apparently killing children is not immoral when you do it by evoking God's supernatural powers. Why are we allowing our children to be taught this stuff? All music in this video is written and performed by MtlRedAtheist .

Why don't my words REGISTER with them?

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by summerbreeze I t's nice to be "courted," isn't it? But, not when you are asked to return to something that caused you so much unhappiness to begin with. Amongst other bible studies, I was enrolled in Community Bible Study (CBS) when I was a Christian. I jumped ship after I realized that Christianity was a lie, and it made me feel so beat-down. After I left, CBS ignored me for several years. Now this past year, they have been continually sending me news letters and forms galore to fill out and rejoin. A few weeks ago, I got fed up and decided to write on the form WHY I left Christianity (I was hoping something just might "register" with someone). Today I received a two-page letter from Mr. Pat Robertson, Executive Director of Community Bible School. I'm sure that he's not the doofus who we're familiar with. Anyway, at first I tore it in two and tossed it in the kitchen waste basket. After a while I decided to fish it out and read it (it...

Taking the "super" out of "supernatural"

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by Nathan I no longer consider myself a Christian and told my wife, her parents and my parents earlier this year. However, I still go to church with my wife (a “non-denominational, a cappella ” congregation with about 10-12 members) because we have three little ones and it doesn't seem right to make her drag all three out the door and drive 25 miles alone. So I have been sitting in church every Sunday listening to a particularly conservative, literal message and it has driven me nuts. Sunday's sermon was particularly egregious and so I thought I'd write something just to get things off my chest. The guy bringing the message started by saying science is a religion in and of itself, then moved on to saying that god is like wind and gravity; you can't see wind or gravity, but can prove they exist by the effects around you. He moved on to say that the defining characteristic for Christians is the resurrection of Jesus and if you can prove there was no resurrection then ...

Parenting Beyond Belief

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Image via Wikipedia I have not read the actual book ( Parenting Beyond Belief: On Raising Ethical, Caring Kids Without Religion ), but I thought it was an apt title for my own story as a parent, because in the end, even with everything I dealt with as a child myself, I somehow managed to parent beyond belief, at least beyond belief in Evangelical Fundamentalist teachings. This also included beyond the trappings I still had to pull my own self out of as an adult too. I do not know how I did it, but I seemed to have done it. When I was little, I made a vow to myself not to do to my children what my parents, grandparents, and other relatives did to me. This also included on the religious front too. Now of course I did not have children yet, but like every little girl I had dreams about adulthood and family. To this day, I believe I kept that promise to myself and the other day, a conversation with my older son, seemed to confirm that I did in at least one area. When my sons were litt...

Big Butter Jesus

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King of Kings (Also known as "Touchdown Jesus" or " Big Butter Jesus "), is a 62-foot-tall sculpture of Jesus just outside of Cincinnati . Jesus appears to be rising from the waters behind the amphitheater at Monroe's Solid Rock Church . Music by Heywood Banks , the version originally broadcast on the syndicated Bob & Tom radio show . All images except the first three reproduced with the permission of the web creationists at jeeebus ( www.jeeeb.us ). Accept no imitations!

Ever Notice... ?

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by Neal Stone Image by benuski via Flickr E ver notice that the Creator of the Universe always needs money -- money that is a monetary system created by man? Ever notice that when one out of 100 is cured of cancer it's considered a miracle? What about the other 99? Ever notice that Christians like to say “Christ is the Answer” followed by “No one can understand the Lord's ways?” So what's the point? Are we supposed to find the question? Friends don't let friends convert to Christianity. Ever notice that those who reject God are “lost,” yet many Christians are still looking for God's Will? Ever notice that Salvation is supposedly free, yet you are expected to tithe 10 percent of your GROSS income after being saved? Ever notice that the amount of money, time and help you give to a church or religious organization is far more than it either ever give back? Ever notice how churches preach about seeking the lost, but once you leave church no one comes knocking on y...

Whose Morals Should Decide My Childbearing? -- An Open Letter to the Catholic Bishops

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By Valerie Tarico Bas relief of a massage abortion from about A.D. 1150. Image via Wikipedia D ear  Bishops – In our struggle to get health care for all, you saw an opportunity to make sure that American women can’t afford abortions, a way to be the deciders for all of us.  You look at someone like me who has had an abortion , and you see a sin.  Perhaps you think that those of us who terminate pregnancies haven’t thought these things through from a moral standpoint.  Or maybe we are simply less moral than you are:  thoughtless, selfish, or promiscuous.  On the other side of the equation, you believe you know the Divine will.  You claim a position of moral authority, confident that the God of love guides your judgment.  I don’t trust that this is true.   Time and again your predecessors made decisions in the name of God that in retrospect are shameful. My abortion was a profoundly moral decision A council of Christian Bishops included ...

Finding God's Will

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by Neal Stone A ll my life as a Christian I was told to find God's will. I had no idea in the beginning what that was or how to do it. Any attempt to find out resulted in me being pushed aside so the more popular kids could find God's Will. So for a time I fumbled around looking for his will. As time went on I noticed some things that happened while in church. I recall one family who son went in the back yard to play. They called him for dinner and he never came. So they went outside to find him and discovered him face down in the mud not breathing. As I recall the child died. At the funeral and in the halls of the church I would hear that “God had his reasons” or “It was God's will and he has a purpose for this.” Time went on. A man in our church spent every minute not at work at the church working. Sometimes he brought his wife and kids and sometimes he just went straight from work. They never went to the movies or go anywhere on vacation. All his spare time was ...

That's me in the corner

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by Jennifer I have a vivid childhood memory from when I was perhaps eight or nine years of age. I was with my mom in our minivan. I think my younger sister was with us, but I'm not positive about that. I remember saying to my mom, "I'm scared that someday I'll reject Jesus and won't be a Christian anymore." My mother, wholesome and wonderful person that she is, told me that I'd have to be careful. "Just follow Jesus and you won't have to worry about it." I remember other times when she told me that she "worried" and "was concerned" about me, because I was intelligent. "I worry that your intelligence will lead you away from Jesus." As things stand, I suppose she had good cause for concern. I was born into a fundamentalist Christian home. My mom was raised as a Lutheran, not one of the more liberal ones but one of the very conservative ones. My father was raised in the Assemblies of God. Somewhere along the way, m...

Sage's Wager

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by WizenedSage Image by jchihos via Flickr P ascal suggested a wager that boils down to this. Why not believe in god if it might benefit you, and at worst will do you no harm? Of course, we know it can do harm. Many have suffered for years and years over fears of hell for themselves or others. Also, most atheists and agnostics don’t really have a choice of believing. We cannot choose to believe in gods any more than we can choose to believe in fire-breathing dragons; all the evidence that we see points in the other direction. I would like to propose a similar wager which I will call “Sage’s Wager.” In its briefest form, it asks the following. If you want to know how the world really works, why make a leap of faith to believe in a god when such leaps fail most (or all) of the time, and science so obviously works? Most Christians would agree that Christianity requires a “leap of faith” since there is no compelling, objective evidence for the existence of the Christian god. If there wer...

Open-mindedness, anecdotes and lies! Oh, my!

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by MtlRedAtheist Image by Dr Case via Flickr R ecently I had a discussion with my Evangelical father-in-law, which went surprisingly well (for a religious debate). It started with an argument between my mother-in-law and my wife and then somehow the conversation got hijacked by us (the men). I know I have to work on that one, seriously. I got involved when my mother-in-law accused my wife of being closed minded for not accepting her beliefs in Creation. Her exact words were, “I wish you could just be more open-minded!” My father-in-laws take wasn’t that we are “closed-minded”, but rather we are “less open-minded” than they are. I obviously disagreed. Here is a summary of some of the points I covered in this conversation. I will be leaving out a lot of the conversation out and focus on a few of the points that I was pleasantly surprised to have been able to make. My father-in-law believes the Bible to be the infallible word of God. He believes it contains no errors and takes it literal...

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