Jesus the False Prophet
By WizenedSage
Please observe:
Not convinced yet? Well, here are a dozen more: Mark 9:1, Mark 14:62, Rom 13:12, 1 Cor 7:31, Phil 4:5, 1 Matt 16:28, Hebews 10:37, James 5:8, 1 John 2:18, Rev 1:1, Rev 3:11, Rev 22:6.
That’s 20 misses. And, in upholding Jesus as a prophet, aren’t they ignoring Deuteronomy 18:21-22?
Doesn’t this pretty much prove that Jesus was a false prophet, since what he said did not come true – at least 20 times over?
Now think of the “Left Behind” novels authors and all the televangelists and other preachers who are still carping about the imminent rapture and ‘end times.’ I can’t help but see that picture of the three monkeys in my mind; hands over mouth, hands over ears, hands over eyes. Willful ignorance personified.
Think about it. If someone gave you stock tips or horse racing picks a half-dozen or so times, and they were always wrong, would you continue to listen to his tips another dozen times or more? Would you still expect wisdom from this guy? Wouldn’t that be a pretty good definition of “gullible?”
If the believers are aware that Jesus was wrong over and over about the “imminent” end of the world, why do they still accept him as a prophet? And if they aren’t aware of this, why is that? How could they miss so very many instances of false prophesy? Is this indeed a simple case of willful ignorance?
Please observe:
Matt 10:23: [Jesus said to his disciples] 'When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next; for truly, I say to you, you will not have gone through all the towns of Israel, before the Son of man comes'.If the believers are aware that Jesus was wrong over and over about the “imminent” end of the world, why do they still accept him as a prophet?
Mark 13:30: [After detailing events up to the end of the world, Jesus says] 'Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away before all these things take place'.
1 Thess 4:15: We who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord [“ are left” for 2,000 years?].
1 Cor 7:29: The appointed time has grown very short; from now on, let those who have wives live as though they had none [he certainly didn’t mean live that way for 2,000 years].
Hebrews 1:2: In these last days he has spoken to us by a Son.
1 Peter 1:20: He [Christ] was destined before the foundation of the world but was made manifest at the end of the times.
Rev 22:20: [Jesus said] 'Surely I am coming soon'.
1 Peter 4:7: The end of all things is at hand.
Not convinced yet? Well, here are a dozen more: Mark 9:1, Mark 14:62, Rom 13:12, 1 Cor 7:31, Phil 4:5, 1 Matt 16:28, Hebews 10:37, James 5:8, 1 John 2:18, Rev 1:1, Rev 3:11, Rev 22:6.
That’s 20 misses. And, in upholding Jesus as a prophet, aren’t they ignoring Deuteronomy 18:21-22?
“You may say to yourselves, ‘How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?’ If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken.”
Doesn’t this pretty much prove that Jesus was a false prophet, since what he said did not come true – at least 20 times over?
Now think of the “Left Behind” novels authors and all the televangelists and other preachers who are still carping about the imminent rapture and ‘end times.’ I can’t help but see that picture of the three monkeys in my mind; hands over mouth, hands over ears, hands over eyes. Willful ignorance personified.
Think about it. If someone gave you stock tips or horse racing picks a half-dozen or so times, and they were always wrong, would you continue to listen to his tips another dozen times or more? Would you still expect wisdom from this guy? Wouldn’t that be a pretty good definition of “gullible?”
If the believers are aware that Jesus was wrong over and over about the “imminent” end of the world, why do they still accept him as a prophet? And if they aren’t aware of this, why is that? How could they miss so very many instances of false prophesy? Is this indeed a simple case of willful ignorance?
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Of course, but which of the millions of young women who conceive and call their sons Jeshua, Joshua, Yeshua or Jesus do you have in mind?
And really if you look up Isaiah 7, the sign the LORD is giving is to Ahaz and the verse goes on to say, "He (the son) will eat curds and honey when he knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right. But before the boy knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right, the land of the two kings you dread will be laid waste. The LORD will bring on you and on your people and on the house of your father a time unlike any since Ephraim broke away from Judah—he will bring the king of Assyria."
It has nothing to do with Jesus. And this is like almost all of the "prophecies" in the bible that supposedly identify Jesus. Christians say there are hundreds of them. And most of those hundreds of "prophecies" are of the same quality as this one. They make no sense and there's no reason to apply them to Jesus.
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen048.html
Unless you look at it from the perspective of the entire gosples being written as some kind of purposeful myth. I generally think of the gospel authors as writing what they believe to be fact from oral traditions that got exaggerated.
What is your take on it? Why do you not think it is literal genre?
I believe that the gospels, as with most of the bible, are mythical fiction just like zeus and hercules. The question i suppose is what was the pre-constantine interpretation of the gospel? It is possible that the Jesus stories were accepted as myth to teach a certain message to a tribe.
As for the question concerning early Xians, you might want to read Robert Price's thoughts on that, as well as other scholars who have studied/research that time. From my understanding, they did not view them quite so literally, but something to glean a lesson from.
1 Peter 4:7 " The end of all things is at hand "....reminds me of Pat Robertson's warnings ( plural ) to us, embarrassingly for him over and over.........but then, maybe not. Is Pat Robertson capable of being embarrassed ? In his case, as in the case of so many morons of his ilk, I sometimes WISH there would be end times, just to whisk them all away from here.
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