Dear Believer
by Dan Barker Dear Believer, — You asked me to consider Christianity as the answer for my life. I have done that. I consider it untrue, repugnant, and harmful. You expect me to believe Jesus was born of a virgin impregnated by a ghost? Do you believe all the crazy tales of ancient religions? Julius Caesar was reportedly born of a virgin; Roman historian Seutonius said Augustus bodily rose to heaven when he died; and Buddha was supposedly born speaking. You don’t believe all that, do you? Why do you expect me to swallow the fables of Christianity? I find it incredible that you ask me to believe that the earth was created in six literal days; women come from a man’s rib; a snake, a donkey, and a burning bush spoke human language; the entire world was flooded, covering the mountains to drown evil; all animal species, millions of them, rode on one boat; language variations stem from the tower of Babel; Moses had a magic wand; the Nile turned to blood; a stick turned into a snake; witches, ...
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Haggard, however,seems to have been a fad from the beginning. The vision he said he had, which led him to start the church, was nothing but a business plan. He knew he could make millions with the idea and went for it.
I have never trusted pastors who pray with their eyes open and overuse the pronouns "me" and "I" during their sermons--such as Haggard and Swaggart.
"We don't have to think, it's written in the bible..."
What a twit.
P.S. I also love you ;-P
Not religious though, just incredibly familiar sentiments...
You sound confused, like you don't know what to do, or who to blame.
It's simple; your beloved Haggard is a Hypocrite.
Accept it.
Finally, there is something that they practice what they preach.
A.liar
B.Homosexual
C.Self-righteous
D.Arrogant
As for those who have left nasty and degrading comments, the bible says, "Touch not mine anointed and do my prophets no harm." It didn't say if they were right or wrong, it just said don't do it. Repent and ask God to forgive. I pray that the Holy Spirit will convict and convince you that you were wrong. Don't talk about the man...pray for him...apparently he needs it. Again, I implore you to read the story of Saul.
The point is this...find a relationship with God for yourself and do the best that you can to not to use your witness. One thing that I always say is that I don't want to do anything to lose my witness and discredit God and His kingdom. I am not perfect, but I know that with God I have to power to overcome temptation. I hate that this happened to this man because that gives the people who are trying to live their lives according to our faith a bad name. Nevertheless, this will not be a bump in the road for me. God is still sovereign.
Your Pastor Ted, whom you're so enamored with, lied to everyone in his flock for three or more years. When he was caught, he denied the allegations. A couple of days later he finally "confessed" that he'd been doing some things that were inappropriate. Not much of a confession.
Anyway, Ted is NOT the anointed of God. He is a charlatan and you were ripped off.
Oh, please, PLEASE anonymous, tell us more bible stories that we as EX-christians somehow happened to miss the first dozen times we read the bible.
With the aid and direction of your god, please have that holy spook convict and convince us that we are wrong. It must be so obvious how desperate we are to become “Christians” again. I’m certain you are on your knees right now praying (to nothing actually) that we shift our gears, turn 180 degrees, and drive back into the hypocrisy-filled fantasyland known as Christianity.
Yes, we all have a burning desire to return to having yahoos like Ted Haggard preaching the true gospel to us.
People like you are so frustrating. This is an EX-christian site!! Get it? GET IT?? Bible spiel is not respected here because, guess what? We all have figured out
(as you are about to, I am sure - just stick around) that the 'Bullshit In Brown Leather Exterior' book that you so love belongs in the same rubbish heap as does the Koran and numerous other religious texts. Understand?? Don't walk on in here and start lecturing us with biblical garbage; it simply will not work here. Besides; we were all christians at one time; there are folks here who have been probably more devout to the christian faith than even you! We know this stuff - we've done the homework and we've even been in your shoes long enough to take our turn at looking just as foolish and stupid-sounding as you do right now! Look - you have nothing concrete to show anyone that your cult is true or even based on reality. Nothing. Not a bloody thing. Unless you intend to show us some empirical evidence to support your 'beliefs', I would strongly suggest not insulting those that frequent this board regularly with your foolish banter. -Wes.
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