Logical Proof that God doesn't exist - Prayer

By Sailorfraud

The Bible says God is almighty who answers your prayers. So how do you know if God is real other than that faith crap? Try the power of prayer when an earthly situation occurs which is beyond your control and only an almighty God who created the universe and all life can control.

Suppose you or a close family member has a terminal disease like cancer which cannot be medically cured? A certain time line is given, so like all hopeful human beings, you humbly and diligently pray to the almighty God who says in the Bible he answers prayers. Time and reality passes, the disease takes it's toll, and your prayers go unanswered.

Maybe one in a million may be saved, but looking at a 99.9999% failure rate for prayer is evidence that God does not exist. Now, compare it to an atheist who suffers the same terminal disease and wishes for healing. The same 99.9999% failure rate occurs.

Now compare it to a devout Muslim suffering the same terminal disease and prays to his/her god for healing, and still results in a 99.9999% failure rate. Similarly, the Hindu, Jew, Buddhist, etc... all face 99.9999% failure rates.

Doesn't this indicate you you that there is no God? Perhaps one of the numerous worshiped gods do exist, but wouldn't that omnipotent god produce better than a 99.9999% failure rate, or else what is the purpose of worshiping that god if he doesn't answer your prayers? Doesn't common logic and sense exist anymore?

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webmdave said...

>Giving my freedom away was the most freeing thing I ever had

logic fail. giving freedom away=most freeing thing

webmdave said...

The fact stands that there is no solid evidence that there is a God and logic says there is no God.

let's see some of the fails "God" has brought in his "word".
All man was created equally (except for Jesus, who could perform miracles and anyone born into an abusive family or born with an illness)

Do not conform to the patterns of this world (unless you are Christian, the largest religion in the world currently)

Existence was created 6,000 years ago you say? (but I look up and see stars billions of light years away)

Need I continue?
Alright I will.

Adding on to all man being created equally, the bible was written by man yet God was allegedly talking through them, why does God talk to them and not you nor I?

Maybe God gave man intelligence but he gave Adam and Eve the ignorance of the reprocutions it would have if they tasted the forbidden fruit.

The Bible says no living man will see heaven. I wish I could quote that directly but I can't find it, Google has failed me. Anyways, no living man will see heaven, but revelations is about heaven seen from John.
Side note; Heaven is not as great as you might think... It says in revelations that Jesus is portrayed as a sheep with seven eyes, seven horns, a crown of fire, and a large gash across His chest. an angel is seen (or something of the sort) and it is man-like as it has a long white beard and white hair, however, it also has a sword jutting out of it's mouth, eyes of flame, brazen feet and more.
just read revelations, know that your heaven makes you a worshipping drone.

webmdave said...

4thWave: "The fact stands that there is no solid evidence that there is a God and logic says there is no God."

4thWave, logic can in fact support the thesis of a god... however, some people do not accept logic/rationalist premises alone to justify belief.

For example, tautologies are a form of propositional logic that when properly formulated, is “true” under any possible valuation. One type of tautology formula is; A or not A.

“God Exists or God does not Exist.”

The statement demonstrates a logical truth, e.g., “necessarily true”, in all possible circumstances. The logic doesn’t demand one way or another, whether or not there is a God, e.g., patterns of logic alone do not say/demonstrate there is no God.

When you say “fact”, is that a personal truth you hold as a fact? Or, are you suggesting that your personally held “truth” is a Universal Fact, and you are capable of demonstrating by solid evidence, that the christian god does not Exist?

Just curious.

Peace
D8

webmdave said...

Explain to me how the earth was placed perfectly just for us to live. How humans and life can just be here... Big Bang Theory? Well the light that exploded... tell me... where did that light come from.

webmdave said...

So you're willing to stake the existence of your god on a fine tuned universe?
Consider this: our existence - as we exist here and now - depends upon the position of Earth in the solar system. If the Earth were located elsewhere - further out or closer in - could we be here discussing this? That is not an argument for your God; instead, it's an illustration of why your argument is nonsensical. It's like a store-bred goldfish claiming that fishbowls are miraculous, because they allow an environment in which they live. (Besides, even if the fine-tuned universe is the result of a god, what makes you believe it's your god, and not one of the other 100+ listed here?

As for the Big Bang Theory? Please come back later once you've actually read something about it. Your description of it only illustrates your ignorance of the topic.

webmdave said...

Read a book besides the Bible or apologist. Maybe Carl Sagan if you want to know more about the universe.

webmdave said...

Christian Believer: "Explain to me how the earth was placed perfectly just for us to live."

It wasn't. Over the course of a year, there's a variation of about 3 million miles in the Earth's orbit around the sun. I also suspect you haven't spent much time in Winnipeg in January, either. :-D

We're here discussing this only because the planet *is* suitable for some forms of life. If Earth wasn't suitable, completely different sentient beings might be discussing this on a planet that did make the grade. In fact, extraterrestrials billions of light years away might indeed be discussing this very issue at this very moment.

"Well the light that exploded... tell me... where did that light come from."

You go first. Where did your alleged god come from?

webmdave said...

Christian Believer says:
"Explain to me how the earth was placed perfectly just for us to live. How humans and life can just be here... Big Bang Theory? Well the light that exploded... tell me... where did that light come from."

Actually Christian, God didn't give a damn about humans when "It" invented the universe, at least that is the way it seems to me.

Otherwise why would "It" have created a system where Humans are the latest version of intelligent life here and our survival depends on our environment not changing too drastically too quickly (Like what happened to the dinosaurs), and making us extinct, before more of us evolve with enough brain power to help save us.

People (you) who get involved with death cults like Christianity, and Islam, which foster belief in mythology and stifle rational thought, and foster so much ill will amongst people, who insist on being ignorant for Jesus, ain't helping.

To think that there are millions of people like you out there, who don't have a clue about evolution and Natural Selection, when there are whole libraries full of books on the subject, is scary!

I realize that you are probably very young, but why don't you become a thinker NOW, instead of wasting thirty or forty years of your life with such silliness as Christianity! Ask for your brain back!
Dano

webmdave said...

Christian Believer says:
"Explain to me how the earth was placed perfectly just for us to live. How humans and life can just be here... Big Bang Theory? Well the light that exploded... tell me... where did that light come from."

Actually Christian, God didn't give a damn about humans when "It" invented the universe, at least that is the way it seems to me.

Otherwise why would "It" have created a system where Humans are the latest version of intelligent life here and our survival depends on our environment not changing too drastically too quickly (Like what happened to the dinosaurs), and making us extinct, before more of us evolve with enough brain power to help save us.

People (you) who get involved with death cults like Christianity, and Islam, which foster belief in mythology and stifle rational thought, and foster so much ill will amongst people, who insist on being ignorant for Jesus, ain't helping.

To think that there are millions of people like you out there, who don't have a clue about evolution and Natural Selection, when there are whole libraries full of books on the subject, is scary!

I realize that you are probably very young, but why don't you become a thinker NOW, instead of wasting thirty or forty years of your life with such silliness as Christianity! Ask for your brain back!
Dano

webmdave said...

I shall explain that to you if you can first explain to me the following:

On a perfectly-formed world, made by a perfectly formed, loving creator and situated in just the right place for humanity, why do natural disasters occur?

Why do people get sunstroke?

Why do some people freeze to death?

Why do people die from infections due to bacteria and viruses?

Why do some people die of cancer?

Why are there birth defects?

You may not reference the non-concept of sin in your answer.

webmdave said...

Xian writes...

"God is not logical and is beyond our comprehension."

2 minutes later, same Xian writes....

"God's message is clear."

webmdave said...

If think a God exists but maybe he can't break his own rules..
what would be the sense of his creation?..
I believe that love is a way to find divinity.. if you don't found it
still have a reward in this life.. is not a useless search. :)

webmdave said...

You obviously do not have belief in the afterlife. Prove that there is not an afterlife.

webmdave said...

I do not have belief in the afterlife because there is no proof, duh!

Do you believe everything you don't have disproof of? Chocolate teapots in orbit around Pluto? A unicorn riding Romulan attack force on the dark side of the moon? Reincarnation?

Hmm, yes, let's look at that last one a bit closer shall we? There are many, many visions of the afterlife besides whatever one you ascribe to, many other heavens and hells that might await us, none of which you are able to prove the non-existence of. Guess you must believe them all then, right?

So what, you die and then they line them all up and you get to choose? Is your decision irrevokable or can you move from one to another like a gigantic ethereal theme park? I mean I like beer and strippers as much as the next guy, but every millenia or so I fancy a year or two's aggro in Valhalla.

webmdave said...

You first, Jhjh. If you do believe in an afterlife, prove it isn't the judgement of Ma'at.

webmdave said...

Tell me this, if prayer was a 100% sucess rate with anything and everything, then people would start praying for stuff like yachts, money, woman, power, revenge. Prayer would be like asking a genie a wish. Their would be no love in it, no true time with god, just a hibitual ceremony to get whatever you want. And realy prayer isnt going to change gods mind, its set on whatever is the best for you and the world.
With the cancer thing, ever think that maybe they need to leave? If all your loved ones lived, then everyone should beable to live forever phyically, then it would eventually become over populated and harsh to live in.

webmdave said...

I think you missed the point. Prayer is completely ineffective. Makes no difference whatsoever on the outcomes of life. If there is a all-knowing, all-seeing, all-powerful being that wanted to make sure the world didn't get overpopulated, then the Pope would be advocating birth control. After all, he is God's mouthpiece.

Again, all-knowing, all-powerful, all-seeing God could just take people out gently if he wanted to, now couldn't he. Instead, people die horrific deaths of horrible diseases and conditions. Wow, can't you just feel the love o God working right here on earth?

There is more than one reason not to believe in Biblegod. The lack of answer to prayer is just one of them.

webmdave said...

"And realy prayer isnt going to change gods mind, its set on whatever is the best for you and the world."

You've just described a "god" who is "Sovereign", a "God" who presumably knows what's "best" for us. Yet, interestingly, Christians still second-guess their biblegod's will and doubt its mind, by "praying" for their *own* wills to be done. This is why the idea of "prayer" is counterproductive, at best, utterly ridiculous, at worst.

"With the cancer thing, ever think that maybe they need to leave?"

'Ever think that a "god" who can created a universe with a snap of its fingers could think of a more humane way of ending the lives of people who "need to leave"? I mean, just because a child "needs to leave", does that automatically mean that he or she NEEDS to die by the "cancer thing", which many times means a prolonged, painful, gruesome death?

webmdave said...

Oh, 'anon'. Time for the hard questions to make your head explode:

Why do only certain christians who are well connected with in the church and with money 'get their prayers answered'? I have seen this time and again with my own eyes, do denying it means you're either an idiot, or are avoiding answering truthfully.

The times I was absolutely SURE I had a prayer answered- why did the christians try to eat me alive? Each and every time (and it wasnt that many), I was treated to some of the most mind boggling behavior by christians when this would happen.

Why do my prayers not get answered, but a nasty, evil prayer by a christian will, ruining my future and or my life? Again, this HAS HAPPENED. WTH? I can be treated like something that ran out the back end of a sick horse?? And by all rights, whatever destruction I get pr(e)yed on me is just freaking fine. I always got no recourse, no help, NOTHING from Sky Daddy.

So... answers? I have an idea what some of them are....

webmdave said...

**A unicorn riding Romulan attack force on the dark side of the moon?**

I'd PAY to see that. Really. :-D

webmdave said...

**God's message is clear.** About as clear as being dumped headfirst into 50 feet of mud with a burlap sack over your head!

Oh, wait- do you mean the message that christians are to use and abuse anyone weaker than them and rob them, lie to them and generally destroy their lives and the whim of the day dictates? because THAT message is crystal clear.

Now, bubba jack- You managed to contradict YOURSELF in 2 paragraphs:
"GOD is truth, peace, clarity, strength, humility."
"God is not logical and is beyond our comprehension."
Wotta pile of horse crap.
Oh yes... Good Ol Satan:
"
The DEVIL is the matter here. Satan and his demons absolutely HATE everyone of us. DOUBT, CONFUSION, FEAR, ANXIETY are all from these demons."

Who created Lucifer and instead of destroying him outright SENT HIM TO EARTH? It wasn't Elmer Fudd!

**Prayer works, yet one must first believe to get the results. I have experienced flat out evidence of prayers answered, beyond logic, that is why we call them miracles.**

Sure you have. It means you're a well connected rich piece of shit, which are the ONLY ones who get 'answered'.

webmdave said...

And to think- there's life ELSEWHERE in the galaxy AND the universe! Wow- it must have been created by... I dunno...

SATAN?????
Good ol SNL Church Lady.

There's life and the possibility for life EVERYWHERE. Europa. Possibly Titan. Mars. Extrasolar planets. Asteroids. Possibly comets. Bacteria can exist on spacecraft.

What- your Bible didnt mention it? Too bad.

webmdave said...

i like these guys but hey the webmaster is correct.

webmdave said...

It's not a fallacy, as much as it's just an underspoken statement. Your using the term "Heads God wins and tails God wins" incorrectly. God wins either way. Ryan, being atheist is like saying, hey, I'm an ignorant douchebag. Can you NOT realize that everything happening all around you and this world we live in is a miracle? And I'm speaking for every God in whatever religion is correct, (maybe even all of them) that what we all have is a blessing. Every bit of it. Just freakin look outside! Get out of the city and witness this gift bestowed by God. Do you think all that can just happen? Look at the sky. The mountains, if any. The trees. The animals and how they strive, just like us. No, I'm not a hippie. I'm just a Christian believer whose tired of this bull shit of all these people who cant realize theres a God. If you, or anyone else who is a very confused atheist, wants to contact me, email me at mysecondemailforotherstuff@gmail.com. Yes, the name is weird. Thank you for your time.

webmdave said...

Hi, Hammer. I think that your feeling that being an atheist is like saying you are an ignorant "douche bag" is taking this awful personally. First of all, everyone on this website isn't an atheist. Second, I am an atheist and I think the world and the universe are absolutely amazing. And I don't know you well enough to think you are or are not a douche bag.

Try this link.
http://new.exchristian.net/2010/11/science-saved-my-soul.html

Have a happy day.

webmdave said...

Oh look. Another christian who

--got lost on the world wide web
--stumbled into a clearly marked website that is not intended for him
--gets his rocks off by insulting us.

Another day, another robot-for-jeeezus.

Are we impressed? Bored? Laughing? Angry? Re-converted? Sending a "confused atheist" message to hammer's second email address?

Didn't think so.

We're just ex-christians on our own little website who are tired of the bull shit of all these arrogant christian web-trespassers who can't realize they've been duped into believing there's a god and who keep trying to force us back into their religionism and their religion into society.

But they love us. Even when they call us ignorant douchebags. ;-)

webmdave said...

But they love us. Even when they call us ignorant douchebags. ;-)

Although I don't share my grandfather's religious views, I can definitely respect what he always said: "The best Bibles are bound in shoeleather."

This venomous hypocrisy is just one of the many contributors to me leaving the faith. Christians might actually have more of an impact on "us damned nonbelievers" if they would just leave us alone. Besides, wasn't it their god that said "If you SEEK me you will find me"? How can I seek god if they keep shoving him in my face? Or how can we miss their idiocy and hate-laced tirades if they won't go away?

webmdave said...

Did your god tell you that you can convince atheists to believe in him by insulting them?

Yeah, sounds like something he'd say. He was a pretty dumb phuk in the OT, you know, just a couple of IQ points ahead of his followers.

BTW, you didn't have to tell us you're not a hippy. It's pretty obvious. Most hippies are nice people.

webmdave said...

So let me get this straight. You're saying that "trees" and "mountains" are credible evidence for your invisible Sky Daddy?

That's funny, because last time I checked, they were clearly evidence of “Nature at work” and nothing more.

If anyone is "ignorant", it's Xtians like YOU buster.

It all boils down to this--

You believe in a god because you have some inner NEED to do so. Beyond that personal need, you have no evidence that your god even exists, let alone that that it gives a damn about the life on this planet.

Wake up to reality, before the God-Virus completely devours what's left of your 'brain', okay?

ATF (Who wonders why it was HIS god that made the trees, and not one of the other 1000's of gods instead)

webmdave said...

The Hammer: "And I'm speaking for every God in whatever religion is correct, (maybe even all of them) that what we all have is a blessing."

Já, because earthquakes, gastroenteritis and plague rats are *such* a blessing.

(Springy Goddess blesses The Hammer with a series of costly Random Equipment Malfunctions, in accordance with Her divine magisteria)

webmdave said...

So mr know all here thinks that all the "gods" are real.. can you please justify your statement and prove to me that there is a god.. or gods..please dont tell me u can see god everyday in whatever u do.. the reason we are here is because everything happened and made it habitable for life to exist..if we lived in a world which had a god .. he wouldn't be so shy to come out to his own people.. to its own creation.. enough with the hide and seek god.. please come out and tell us ur there..lol

webmdave said...

Here's what I say. You want to be an atheist, that's great. I want to be a christian. Great. I don't think it's right for christians to try to bestow their beliefs on atheists. However, I think it's worse for an atheist to bestow their beliefs on a christian. Let's say someone turns an atheist. Yes, by your logic they will waste their life appeasing a false idol, but at least they live looking forward to a better afterlife. Let's say you convince me that God doesn't exist. Okay, so I'll live my life thinking that, no matter how great or terrible my life is, it won't matter because someday I'll just be dust. Although I have lately been experiencing agnostic thoughts, I'm trying to maintain faith. Ok, that may seem stupid to you, but I'd like to think that, if I were an atheist, I wouldn't want to crush someone's hopes. I apologize on behalf of the less open-minded christians, but atheists aren't exactly perfect. There are plenty that categorizes anyone, regardless of intellectual status, of being an idiot for believing in a god. I'm no idiot, I just don't happen to believe science is the only answer to creation. I implore that you let me keep my beliefs as I let you keep yours.

webmdave said...

Mike, you do make a point. Although I am a Christian, I don't necessarily pray for a specific occurence. However, I'm not going to tell you what I believe because, after observing this thread, it is evident that I will simply be berated. Ironic, since Christians are supposed to be the ones who don't tolerate others' beliefs.

webmdave said...

OMG! Who has suggested that you aren't being allowed to keep your beliefs? Look, if we were on a Christian website denigrating your fantasies, I might be able to see your point. But it is you who are on our website.

Nevertheless, regardless of how warm and fuzzy it makes a child feel to live in a world of imagination, reality with all of it's difficult challenges and disappointments is the home for mature adults.

webmdave said...

Hey, CC. Sorry to hear about your trying to maintain your faith. Biblical faith is the belief in things unseen and things hoped for. Just wanting doesn't make it so. So, we are all going to die. Yes, we will cease to exist. And you know what? That will happen even if I make myself believe in golden streets and banquets whilst I watch non-believers roast in hell. It isn't so bad. Instead of living for the next life I try to get the most I can out of this one life I do have. I don't mean in a greedy it's all for me way but in a way that allows me to pursue some of my dreams and nurture those around me and such.

I no longer feel I am a lowly worm and a filthy rag and unworthy because of the sins of mythical Adam and Eve. I, and really no one, deserves Hell and it is just a terrible myth that has been blown way out of proportion anyway.

Being an agnostic is a legitimate and thinking answer to the question "Is there a god?" Atheists are not all trying to take that away from you. But Biblegod is not a healthy concept and surely you could look into deism and some of the other religious perspectives.

Do take note that you came to exChristian.net we didn't come to Jesus-R-Us.net and tell you that you are wrong. By the way, everyone at exC is not an atheist. There are humanists, deists, agnostics [theist and atheist], pantheists, etc. I am an atheist and I am happy in my viewpoint. Prove there is a God and I will change my mind but I have read thousands of words on this topic from a variety of viewpoints and this is what it has come to for me - there just isn't an all-knowing, all-seeing being [or even a lesser superpower] running this universe.

Have a happy life and good for you for at least admitting you have had agnostic thoughts.

webmdave said...

"Mike, you do make a point."

You do realize, don't you, that you have responded to guy who posted 3 years ago?

In any case, you go on....

"Although I am a Christian, I don't necessarily pray for a specific occurence."

But why not? Surely a being who can design and create an entire universe can grasp the specifics of a measly prayer request, can't they? And anyway, doesn't this guy already know precisely what we need/want/desire?

"However, I'm not going to tell you what I believe because[...]"

I'm curious why you would actually think that what you believe is something we haven't heard before.

"...after observing this thread, it is evident that I will simply be berated."

Why don't start with some evidence for your beliefs, and perhaps you can change that trend.

" Ironic, since Christians are supposed to be the ones who don't tolerate others' beliefs."

It is the Christian doctrine, itself, that doesn't tolerate "other's beliefs". In fact, if you were following the bible to the letter, you could just kill all those who don't believe, and be done with it. Thank reason - and years, and years, of Christians dialoging with secularists - that you and today's "Christians" don't follow the bible to the letter.

webmdave said...

You may not be an idiot, but you are STUPID!

webmdave said...

Persecution complex.

webmdave said...

Conorcob: "I don't think it's right for christians to try to bestow their beliefs on atheists. However, I think it's worse for an atheist to bestow their beliefs on a christian."

Nice double standard you've got there.

"I apologize on behalf of the less open-minded christians, but atheists aren't exactly perfect."

Logical fallacy: Tu quoque.

And what *are* you doing on our blog, anyway?

webmdave said...

Yeah, I couldn't figure that one out - how is it worse for an atheist to believe in living life based on evidence and it is somehow good to make people believe in Christianity - to instill the concepts that all human beings are worms and deserve hell and most of us are going to hell and you should believe in a Magical Skygod who will save you from a a disease Christianity invented - original sin?

webmdave said...

Matt,

It would be useful if you could reconcile the following statements you made in your post:

The bible has over 400,000 errors.

GOD is truth, peace, clarity, strength, humility.

God's message is clear.


I, personally, am unclear how a book containing 783137 words (KJV) of which more than 50% are "in error" can possibly be touted as having any value in the meaning-of-life stakes.

Further, if you are sure that there are 400,000 errors, you must have an authoritative text against which to make a comparison. What is that text, and why is it not being used as the basis of your religion?

God is not beyond comprehension, merely beyond belief.

Peace,

David

webmdave said...

Prove to me God doesn't exist. Prove me that God exists.
It's called hate. I don't want to hate, but we are human, we make mistakes. Some of you will get my point, some of you won't. And in the Bible it says that christians can't eat swine. Guess what, in the New Testament it says that whatever God says, is the law,and he said that we CAN eat swine. I'm not here to start a fight, but i'm here to tell you to stop wasting your time on these pages, UNLESS you like it of course. I have my moments when I am so angry I turn my back on God. But then guess what happened? As soon as I turned my back on him. The next day it rained ice while I was at my football game. And ALL of the weather channels and on internet said it won't rain. And bad stuff happen EVERY time I turn my back on him. That may not be enough proof to convince you, but I am not asking for you to believe in God. I am merely saying stop fighting over such small stuff, enjoy life instead! The next sentence will make some of you wonder, most of you laugh at me, and a few of you respect my opinion.
"I am twelve year old that came from a very poor family, I don't want your pity, how did I believe in God when we lived in a cabin without GOOD water or food supplies, nothing but bread and dirty water.
My family believed in God, I didn't, as soon as I started believing in God, things turned out very good. We had enough money and moved to Norway, and now I have my own phone and all. It was I that triggered this, I had to believe in him, like my family, and then we all felt better."
Frankly, this subject made me feel bad about some of you, I respect everyone's opinion, but even intelligent people like atheists can make mistakes, all the swear words, for what? For nothing.
"I follow the Bible, and if I see a satanist it is my duty as a christian to kill that person, because the Bible says so." I am pretty sure the last sentence there triggered an argue. Frankly, don't argue. Peace to you all.

PS: OMG TECHNO OWNS!

webmdave said...

i prayed once when i was 10 years and it worked! i was stuck in a toilet in 4th grade i could not open the door and everyone was outside i was there for like 20 minutes then i prayed and after a minute a teatcher came in and said that i was lucky that she forgot some books so she had to come back and get it, could it be god or luck? i dont know, maybe god exist maybe not i have no idea what i should belive

webmdave said...

Yes, I know I'm a year late on this but last time i checked, "Hell" was just an eternal separation from God that is never undone, no matter how forgiving and loving he is (Thanks God, we appreciate that o.0). The whole "fire and brimstone" thing were just christian extremist ideas of hell to scare people into converting. This is how corruption in the church starts out pretty much (making people pay money to be cleansed of their sins and get a free ticket into heaven and maybe bring a dog).
So yes, people like you may feel free to laugh at us when we're "burning in hell" but people like us will laugh at you when you become fertilizer for an apple tree or something.

webmdave said...

The three possible answers to prayer are yes, no or not now but whatever the outcome it is always "Gods will". The dillema is that I always get the same results when I pray to a rock.

webmdave said...

One can take whatever happens and call it god.

Suppose your daughter is out driving through Indianapolis; she returns safely; thank god.

She narrowly misses an accident; thank god.

She is involved in a fender-bender; thank god it wasn't worse.

She totals the car; thank god for sparing her life.

She is injured slightly; thank god she is okay.

She is crippled for life; thank god she is alive.

She is dead; praise god, who giveth and taketh away.

We all know how this works. If everything that happens is the will of god, then how is god ever verifiable?

webmdave said...

So are you saying you are a deist?

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