Proof that god is nonexistant: a short version

By Bob P

While it isn't logically possible to prove the nonexistence of anything, it is possible to show how unlikely it might be. The title of this, while illogical and inaccurate, is based on getting your attention by using an old religious concept called misrepresentation (lying). Lying is unethical, but if it works for them (religionists), it should work here. I apologize for lying, which is something religion refuses to do.

I doubt I'll be able to show anything the great philosophers and thinkers haven't already shown, but perhaps the brevity of this will make it more readily palatable in a very busy age of too many unwanted emails.

I'll rely heavily on Occam's Razor rather than lengthy prose. What is Occam's Razor? CLICK HERE.

1: There is no god:

There never has been. I have never seen, heard or felt one (or many). That alone should be sufficient evidence for a reasonable conclusion. If anything exists, there is evidence to support it, period!

2: If there were a god, why are there so many different religions?

Wouldn't a real god unify the world into the common knowledge of who the big guy really is?

3: Would a real god expect his followers to rely on such a weak basis for belief as FAITH?

Faith and wishful thinking are inseparable in a religious context.

4: The god of the Bible spoke to Adam, Noah and Moses, but what about the rest of us? Are we just chopped liver?

Can there be any better evidence for the non existence of a god than silence?

5: The known universe is now believed to be 14 billion years old and millions of light years in size. The earth, compared to the universe, relatively, isn't the size of a virus.

Isn't that a big waste of space?

6: The only source of information for any of the world's religions is from vague and unknown authors without any substantial historical verification.

The writings of Homer and Dr, Seuss have more credibility.

7: Nothing fails like prayer (Thanks, FFRF).

Praying alone should be sufficient evidence that no one is listening. Praying is intended to humble, humiliate and self flagellate oneself into a state of dependence to the extent of loosening purse strings and being manipulated. Self bondage is demeaning and loathsome.

8: Religious wars:

If god can' stop wars, what can he do? The 'good book' shows that god supports and encourages war. A god of love? ... Rubbish! Is there any difference between a god that could, but won't, and a god who won't, but could?

9: Disease and suffering, especially among children:

This is too obvious to make even one comment.

10: The reason for religion?

For the answer to this, I'll rely on a quote from that great statesman and philosopher, Jesse Ventura. As Jesse so eloquently stated: "Religion is a crutch for those too lazy to think for themselves." How could I add to that?

Conclusion: Man has a very imaginative and fertile mind. Man's gods have man's emotions. If frogs had a god, he'd be green...

"Religion is to the politician useful, to the preacher profitable and to the believer, comfortable." -- (Author unknown at this time.)

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Yukkione said...

Very nice... one might say it's the "Simple Life" reasons to not believe.
Today lightnig hit the steeple of a large Baptist church here in the US. I would be curious to hear the myriad reasonings going on with the parrishoners..."Thank god no one was hurt" "God is testing us" "There must be sinners here" "God wants us to build a bigger church in it's place" "God must need the insurance money"

Anonymous said...

Actually, it is possible to show that something does not exist if its existence would entail a logical contradiction. Square circles can not exist, nor can married bachelors (unless we define these things in some tortuous way).

Does the existence of God entail a logical contradiction? Perhaps, if we say that God is a being that has foreknowledge of events yet allows free will. Or is capable of making a rock so big that he can't lift it. Or insert your favourite contradiction here.

Richard said...

11. Because there is no afterlife, the whole religions discussion is pointless.

Brain science has very good evidence that "We are our brain", and when the brain dies we are gone. So no afterlife makes thinking about god pointless.

Aspentroll said...

To Bob A:

Well said, your statement is a keeper. Without to much "floweration", you've said it all. With your permission I would like to copy and save it
for future perusal.

Bob said...

To Aspentroll
Thank you for your kind comments. By all means feel free to use my rant in any way that would help free a mental prisoner from religious bondage.
Bob A

Anonymous said...

If anything exists, there is evidence of it?

Multiverses? String Theory?

Did Hannibal?

And one time there was no evidence that atoms existed, although they were theorized. Did they not exists until there was evidence?

boomSLANG said...

Christian apologist: And one time there was no evidence that atoms existed, although they were theorized. Did they not [exist] until there was evidence?

Please, I implore you---use every ounce of your freewill that you can muster up, and deny that "atoms" exist. You are perfectly free to do so. After all, "atoms" won't band together and come track you down and set you on fire for doubting their existance. But of course, nor will they reward you if you should happen to change your position on the matter. So in that case, you may as well keep doubting that atoms exist. 'Happy?

Atoms bless you.

Audie said...

How can we be 99% sure that Hannibal existed? Because stuff was written about him IN HIS TIME. For us History buffs, those are called Primary Sourses. And yes, there is documented evidence of the words, acts and strategy of the Hannible the Great.

Now, compare that to another supposed charactor of history. This guy named Jesus is said to have performed all these great miracles, yet no one wrote about it at the time. Matter of fact, no one wrote about it at all until at least 60-80 years AFTER the fact. As an amature historian, if that was all we had about Hannible the Great, I probably wouldn't conclude the he ever existed either.

As far as Atoms, I still don't believe in them. Atomic theory is a right-wing conspiracy!!! LMFAO

freeman said...

Freaky Fundy is actually making an argument for our point of view!
And one time there was no evidence that atoms existed, although they were theorized. Did they not exists until there was evidence?

Yes, the Big Bang is a Theory. Once it was just a thought without evidence and christians claimed that it did not exist. Now, scientific evidence points to it being an actual event and you idiots still deny its existence!

freeman said...

Major Evidence for Big Bang and Sting Theory!

Zero Evidence for the walking zombie!

eel_shepherd said...

I don't believe in atoms either! The little sonsabitches have had it their own way for too long already.

Josh said...

You know, theres a reason we don't talk about atoms or politics at the dinner table.

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