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8/18/2006                                                                                       View Comments

The eight steps you must take to get to heaven


Anonymous said...

Once again, simple, obvious points made of the ludicrousness of christianity! But boy, how they defend it, and look at us like we're nuts!

Avie said...

During the first minute of this, I was thinking, "Oh, no...another Christian propaganda video to show how crazy they are..." But then I realized it was just the opposite. They're still crazy, nothing changes that.

I found myself thinking, "I guess their god really doesn't want anyone in heaven." If I didn't want anyone coming to my house and didn't have the guts to tell them to stay away, I'd give confusing directions like that, too!

On a more practical note, I firmly feel that the bible is nothing more than the combined writings of the Hebrew people. Nothing more, nothing less. Mythology taken too seriously, really. It's okay for a group to have their myths, heck, I have them too. (Some of my personal beliefs could be looked at as downright wacky!) But they're mine and I don't force them on others. They don't interfere with how I lead my life or how I relate to others. And therein lies the difference.

ryan said...

avie, we all have our myths, things that work for us but would mean nothing to the next guy. To attempt to force our stuff on others is sheer bullying.

That is why the single most irritating thing xians do is "share". They have no intention of sharing; they intend to transmogrify their victims into something they aren't.

I am fond of Nietzsche and Ayn Rand. I like Satanism--I have just finished reading The Secret Life of a Satanist by Blanche Barton. These things have made me better and stronger, but I could not care less if my neighbor shares these things with me. Imitating others is cheap and vulgar.

xians come in here all the time, distressed out of their wits that there are people who do not share their notions. Who I am and what I think is precious to me, but the word "precious" is not in their vocabulary. Neither is the word "I"

boomSLANG said...

Quote: "xians come in here all the time, distressed out of their wits that there are people who do not share their notions."

Right, and do you think for one second that any Religionist would give half-a-rat's ass if someone started a "Trees Don't Exist" website? Seriously, would people waste time and energy rebuking such an assertion? Would they go back-n-forth trying to "define" a "tree"?...trying to PROVE the existance of trees?

The first point being---that if someone REALLY, REALLY...and I mean R-E-A-L-L-Y believed that something undeniably existed---something like "trees", for instance---then they wouldn't give the non-believer the time of day. The second point being---that because this is clearly NOT the case with people who deny "God"...e.g.."", this pretty much shows that there's at least SOME insecurity on the behalf of the believer. Of course, they'll never admit it, because they have "Faith".

BTW, the reason this analogy doesn't go both ways, is because there are no conditions attached to "non-belief". The non-believer stands to gain nothing; the believer stands to gain eternal life....which is a contradiction, BTW.

omit said...

Shocking Youth Message Stuns Hearers - So Shocking the Preacher Was Never Invited Back

Hellbound Alleee said...

"avie, we all have our myths,"

...Which is a myth, something we should be courageous enough to look at straight on, see that it's untrue, purge it, and move on.

Anonymous said...

Why does it sound wise when someone like boomslang slams all people who believe in a god and proves it by their desire to contradict things they think are irrational? Isn't this website exactly that approach?

Logic is not a part of "non-belief" I guess...reason which works in one direction seems a little too self serving to be considered objective...

I'm not saying it's not okay to wear a shirt that says "I believe people shouldn't believe _________ for the following reasons"...but I just can't imagine that feeling like a worthwhile statement to anyone...but here we are...

boomSLANG said...

Since I can't really make heads or tails of the critique of me, and/or, this website, I'll run with this:

Anon: "Logic is not a part of "non-belief" I guess"

Please tell me how you arrive at this. Also, if you wish, I can try and explain why I'm a skeptic and how logic plays a role in it.

So tell us a bit more about yourself, Anon... True™ Christian?...True™ Muslim?...what?