I first posted this "testimony" to the web on July 27, 2001. If you too have found Christianity specifically, or religion generally, to be less than satisfying for any reason, please consider posting your own "testimony" to this site by clicking here , or message me by clicking here. I t is invariably a shock to Evangelical Christians to come across someone who has turned his or her back on the “faith was once delivered unto the saints.” Most believers will quickly dismiss an ex-Christian by piously pointing out that anyone who turns away from Christ was never a real believer. Or, as an insider might say it, “They were never born again.” There is Biblical support for the assertion. 1 John 2:19, which addressed the problem of First Century apostates, states that: “They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us....
Josephus can be immediately discounted as a contemporary of Jesus as he was born after Jesus was supposedly killed. Anything he wrote would be nothing more than hearsay from followers of the Christian religion.
ReplyDeleteArguing with 'Holding' is like fighting the tar baby.
ReplyDeleteHe never admits when he's been beaten, he just argues around in a wild goose dance until you can't be bothered anymore, or you get sick of his namby pamby insults.
Then he writes up another 'victory' on his website. 'Atheist humiliated'... blah, blah, blah...
Very nice piece, but at the end I am wondering why you close with "and may God's gift of reason light our way."
ReplyDeleteuhhh.. "God's gift"? I thought the blogger(s) here were atheist, so this phrase throws me. It's okay if the person in the video isn't atheist, and I'm not accusing, challenging, or otherwise intentionally demeaning (and I ask forgiveness if it sounds like I am)... just inquiring about this turn of phrase as used at the end of a (presumably) atheist video.
All the rest of it is very good.
Thank you
the guy might be deist
ReplyDeletesir fer wrote:
ReplyDelete"the guy might be deist"
I've watched quite a few of his video's and he is indeed a deist, but considering how young he is, I'm betting it won't be long before he gives up on that idea as well.
ATF
Knitterman wrote: “uhhh.. 'God's gift'? I thought the blogger(s) here were atheist, so this phrase throws me.”
ReplyDeleteThe bloggers here are former Christians. Not all former Christians default to atheism.