"A Sabbatical?" or "My Anti-Testimony"
I first posted this "testimony" to the web on July 27, 2001. If you too have found Christianity specifically, or religion generally, to be less than satisfying for any reason, please consider posting your own "testimony" to this site by clicking here , or message me by clicking here. I t is invariably a shock to Evangelical Christians to come across someone who has turned his or her back on the “faith was once delivered unto the saints.” Most believers will quickly dismiss an ex-Christian by piously pointing out that anyone who turns away from Christ was never a real believer. Or, as an insider might say it, “They were never born again.” There is Biblical support for the assertion. 1 John 2:19, which addressed the problem of First Century apostates, states that: “They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us....
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Grandpa Harley
I wish some of these nuts would go over to Iraq and parachute down into Bagdad and see what fun and how easy it would be to be a martyr for their beliefs.
I like the instant mustache and hair...lol
And I'd bet money that he uses a car...and modern medical treatments...air conditioning, central heating, electric light....all of which were made possible by SCIENCE.
1) There is no scientific way to determine moral values. Science can only examine what people say are moral values and what comes of that in objective terms.
2) Moral values are socially constructed. But this doesn't mean they're *arbitrary* either.
See:
http://www.churchoffreethought.org/cgi-bin/contray/contray.cgi?ID=000011010&GROUP=049
for further analysis
Now then, I have a question for each of these fellows. To the believer I ask: If the only reason to be good is to please your deity so you can get into heaven and avoid hell, doesn't that mean that being good is only a means to an end, and that the *greater good* is really getting into heaven and escaping hell? So if your God told you to rob, rape, and kill, you would do that, just as his followers in the OT did?
And to Brett I ask: Why should someone *not* do whatever they want, even if it violated the general standards of morals held by a community or even by that someone, if they were sure not to get caught?
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